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chakroc wrote:Again, I'm just gonna be blunt and say that I'm old school and HATE the 'politically correct' world we live in today. And given that, I would HATE the idea of changing anything like the ethnicity or gender of main characters. Just like I would hate it if they had the character of Draco show up and be a white or hispanic character. Heck, if we're going for the totally PC new version of Xena, why not also also have 'Gabriel' be a transgender why we're at it.
Sorry, but I've seen the comics change who Spider-Man is, I've now heard they are gonna make an Iron-Man where he is a woman...and I don't like it. Why I'm all for equality, if you want a female or a hispanic or an african-american to be a super-hero character...then create one; but don't take already established characters and switch them around to something totally different just for the sake of trying to be politically correct in today's society. For me, the image of Xena has already been established, and she's a tall, dark haired, 'white', greek warrior. If they change that for simply the sake of political correctness; I know I will not give the show the time of day.
If that opinion upsets folks...so be it. If some even feel the need to try and classify me as a racist for that opinion, I'll simply tell you you're wrong. I simply hate the politically correct society that has been created in the last decade or so where folks feel they have to be so self-righteous in everything they say, and everything they say has to please the masses as opposed to simply saying what you think. You know, we used to be able to do that...simply say what was on our mind, and folks would simply agree or disagree with you...but today, if someone disagrees with your opinion, you are vilified for it. And thus, the world we live in today. I totally disagree with Lucy here. I don't mind so much if X/G ended up becoming lovers in the new show, because that was hinted at in the original...and it wouldn't be a total change. But to change Xena's ethnicity, just for the sake of appeasing those who want more diversity; nope, I wouldn't go for that. That's my opinion on it.
08/23/16 03:22 PM
chakroc wrote:IMO, all political correctness has done is caused more hate in the world, and caused folks to be too sensitive today. Back when i grew up, we used to be able to joke and kid with each other without folks getting bent out of shape....now, we can't say a word without someone, somewhere being offended by it. If you wear a certain shirt, someone is offended...if you dislike a certain movie or actor, someone gets offended...if you like a certain team, someone gets offended...if you dislike a certain flavor of ice cream, someone gets offended. The skin of folks today has gotten to be thinner than tissue paper, and society has grown to feel that everything has to cater to their likes and dislikes; and they take the attitude of, 'how dare someone do or say something that I don't like!'. Racism and hatred is WAYYYY worse today than it ever was back when I was growing up...and I firmly believe much of it is because of the PC world the media and internet has created. We used to get our education about the ways of life from our parents, and actually getting out and experiencing the world...today, the younger generation gets it from what they read on social media because from the time they can walk they have a smartphone in their hand. And this is what so many folks fail to understand...all this good that folks seem to think they are doing by calling for diversity this and diversity that does nothing but make racism and hatred worse. Human nature dictates that we don't like having things shoved down our throat...and that is exactly what is being done to society as a whole today, and it's why folks are reaching their breaking points and things are getting worse. Racism is worse than it has ever been, hatred towards transgenders is worse than it has ever been. Social media has folks brainwashed into thinking they are doing right by being so self righteous and shoving certain subjects down the throats of everyone...when all it is doing is causing many folks to break because of being hit in the head over and over and over again with things they normally wouldn't have given a second thought to.
When you look at a show like Sleepy Hollow, where the main characters created were a white guy and black girl...most had no problem at all with that because they were original characters that were created. I know I sure as heck had no problem with it. But if you take a character like Xena, and switch her ethnicity simply to say your being more diverse...many in society is going to see that is simply catering to one ethnicity simply to get some good PC points in social media...and many will NOT like that. And guess what the reaction in many will be...they will take issue with the ethnicity that 'stole' one of their heroic characters. In reality, they personally had nothing to do with it, it was the PC world we live in that caused it, but their feelings will have to be lashed out to someone, so guess who takes the brunt...and that is why we see so much more hatred being brought to the surface today. Folks of course can and will take sides on who is wrong and who is right...but in the end, it doesn't matter...all that really matters is the end result is more hatred and fighting.
This has been going on for the last decade...this PC world that social media has created, and ever since, there has been more hatred, anger and violence than ever before. My 'opinion' is the entire PC society that has been created is one of the single worse things that has happened to society today. You don't have to take my word for it...just look around you at the world we live in today. Many may blame the individuals...but the individuals are a product of their environment. When I grew up, if you lived in DC and wore a Dallas Cowboys shirt to school, you sometimes got ragged on in a joking, fun manner(no one certainly never offended by it). If you do it today, you may either have a fight, or you may even have the school make the kid change his shirt or be forced to go home because it's causing an issue and 'offending' others(this has actually happened folks). And some folks really think society is making progress...seriously.
Again, opinions vary, and we are all entitled to our own. Mine are very strong on this subject, so it's probably better that I exit this one given I've already said my peace.
08/23/16 06:05 PM
chakroc wrote: But if you take a character like Xena, and switch her ethnicity simply to say your being more diverse...many in society is going to see that is simply catering to one ethnicity simply to get some good PC points in social media...and many will NOT like that.
Is anyone suggesting that? The impression I had is that people, myself included, are simply saying that some roles can simply be played by the best actor for that role, irrespective of that actor's ethnicity.
I know that we're talking about race, but I have to note that, as a gay man, the "change" in Star Trek Beyond to make Sulu canonically gay was pretty awesome news to me. Sure, the movie was terrible and it doesn't go out of its way to actually establish that Sulu is gay in any meaningful way (i.e. parts of the audience believe that he was hugging his brother, not his husband), but I still appreciated the teeny tiny, ever so small baby steps in the right direction to representing broader diversity in the Star Trek universe and in major science-fiction blockbusters in general.
When I grew up there were no gay characters on TV, with the possible exception of Mr Humphries on "Are You Being Served" where the character was a one-dimensional caricature on a sitcom full of one-dimensional caricatures. It's taken some time, but there are now gay characters on a relatively wide assortment of TV shows. Sure, they may not be treated or written very well, but at least they're somewhat visible. Although I'm partly indigenous Australian (Aboriginal), it's not physically evident so I've never struggled to see people who *look* like me (i.e. white) on TV. But, I can imagine that POC appreciate seeing diversity on screen in the same manner that I appreciate seeing more gay characters on TV.
All IMHO of course. I'm not trying to argue. I'm just offering an alternative viewpoint.
EDIT: I think part of the problem is that Hollywood is unwilling to embrace new ideas / stories and is primarily focused on trying to revive and reboot pre-existing properties for a modern audience. If Hollywood was more willing to creatively pursue new ideas / stories where people don't have pre-existing ... "concepts / visions" of the characters in their heads (usually because of the talent of the original actor who "created" that character), then it would potentially be ... easier to represent diversity on screen.
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Haephestus wrote:EDIT: I think part of the problem is that Hollywood is unwilling to embrace new ideas / stories and is primarily focused on trying to revive and reboot pre-existing properties for a modern audience. If Hollywood was more willing to creatively pursue new ideas / stories where people don't have pre-existing ... "concepts / visions" of the characters in their heads (usually because of the talent of the original actor who "created" that character), then it would potentially be ... easier to represent diversity on screen.
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